{37} Happy 4 Year Anniversary, Ryan Adams

On this, our 4 year Anniversary we discuss...Ryan Adams.  Parts 2 & 3 pending. You're Welcome.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:03

We are live. Welcome to Dr. Donut and the Dingus podcast. Okay, let me put this here.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Who okay? So first off, the the sign, the banner in the back. You did that? You did this, the Dr. Donut E the Dingus.

SPEAKER_07 0:26

I engineered it last night.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

That's a great font.

SPEAKER_07 0:31

I was like, we need a Dr. Donut in the Dingus background. Now it is backwards on my view here.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

It is not backwards to me. It looks, I love the font. I love what you did there.

SPEAKER_07 0:43

Yeah, when I started doing it, I was like, this would look cooler if it was like psychedelic and melty.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

Oh, the S just blew. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 0:52

It's blowing because I have a fan, because I'm in the throes of perimenopause.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

So wait a minute. These are paper cutouts letters? Yeah. I thought it was like a gray banner that you painted white on.

SPEAKER_07 1:04

So I'm even fucking screen. That is my window screen.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:10

And then I taped it up there with matte straight up scotch tape.

SPEAKER_02 1:15

Wow. I thought it was like an actual uh like canvas banner or something, and that was just it looks great. It's just that that S keeps flapping. I love it.

SPEAKER_07 1:28

You want me to nail it down? Because I got my tape right here.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Oh no, no, no, no, no. It keeps things in perspective for me.

SPEAKER_07 1:34

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Um, but it's been a while.

SPEAKER_07 1:38

Yeah, it's been a while.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

How um well, okay. First off, there's one tidbit trivia I have to share with you, courtesy of the only historian, the leading historian of modern podcasting, JPX.

SPEAKER_07 1:58

Okay. Shout out, JPX.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Today. April 9th, is it? Yes. Yes. April 9th, 2022. What do you think happened on that day four years ago?

SPEAKER_07 2:14

I'll tell you, I'm in the know because I run the IG account.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:20

What it um this is crazy. This is so great. Uh, this was this is the anniversary of our first episode. Four years?

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Four-year anniversary.

SPEAKER_07 2:34

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Everyone get drunk.

SPEAKER_07 2:40

I'm celebrating with my grateful dead bear pint.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

There you go. Uh well, I had no idea. I I I had no idea. I woke up to a text because they're on the east coast, so they're three hours ahead, and they're constantly texting me at you know four or five, six a.m. And I'm constantly texting them when it's you know midnight, one, two, three a.m. for them. Uh, but I got a text like, yeah, four-year anniversary of our of our first show. So happy anniversary.

SPEAKER_07 3:15

Happy anniversary. Thank you to all of our listeners. We have about five people who listen, and we love you.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

The high five, we call them.

unknown 3:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 3:27

Big five, double five.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

I'm hoping to make that five ten, you know.

SPEAKER_07 3:33

We're gonna make it ten because I think we have some really good subject matter that I decided now.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 3:42

Turns out we're gonna we're gonna bring back the um I've got a new mania. The what I've got a new mania.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

A new mania, okay.

SPEAKER_07 3:58

And it's surrounding Nuevo Mania. I it's from that's from Mr. Toad's wild ride. He's like, I've got a new mania, and he's driving this like anyway. Um, it is singer-songwriter Ryan Adams.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Ryan, Ryan, not Brian Adams.

SPEAKER_07 4:22

Don't he get pissed if you shout out a Brian Adams request, which happens to be my very first concert was Brian Adams.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

See, and maybe your last podcast will be about Ryan Adams. Who knows?

SPEAKER_07 4:35

We'll probably die after this.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Nope, nope, no, no. But hey, not it's not bad to be mistaken for Brian Adams.

SPEAKER_07 4:46

I mean, come on, no, Brian Adams is great, and it's rock and roll and like similar or Canadian.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

It's not bad to be mistaken for a Canadian.

SPEAKER_07 4:57

No, everyone loves Canada.

SPEAKER_02 4:59

I would love for someone to think I'm Canadian.

SPEAKER_07 5:02

Well, but you gotta change the way you talk, you gotta start watching the original Degrassi Junior High.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

I gotta start acting different, better, or something. Nice.

SPEAKER_07 5:14

So, anyway, how did I get on this thing? Is so funny. So, like, yes, I completely ignored Ryan Adams from my obsessiveness with music because this is the funniest part. I thought this whole fucking time, because this guy was married to Mandy Moore, like in the thoughts.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

I forgot about Mandy Moore.

SPEAKER_07 5:42

Yeah, we get we're gonna talk about that later. We will have a structure to this, but but because his back to Mandy Moore, like during that time, like Ashley, or a little bit before that time, Ashley Simpson had a reality show, Jessica Simpson. And on Ashley's tour was this guy named Ryan Sutchin shit. He was like a real piece of shit. He was the dumb guy, he's a douchebag. I don't know who he is. This whole fucking dumb. I thought Ryan Adams was that guy. We're gonna have to Google it. Google Ashley Simpson Ryan Cabrera. His name is Ryan Cabrera. Look at a picture of this fucking dude.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Okay, let me look. Right. Everyone Google Ryan Cabrera as I am right now.

SPEAKER_07 6:37

He's gonna laugh.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

Ryan Cabrera.

SPEAKER_07 6:41

He's like oh wow, spiky hair, like fucking dort. Um, but yeah, this whole time I thought that was who Ryan Adams was.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

Really? Like with the fucking like bleach blonde kind of pomp, not pompadour, but just like the I don't know what the fuck straight up.

SPEAKER_07 7:04

It's early 2000s hair, you know.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

It's like oh, here's an older picture where yeah, the spiky with him and Ashley Simpson, the spiky okay. Well, whatever. So okay, you thought this guy you thought Ryan Cabrera was Ryan Adams, which I'm sure would piss Ryan Adams off to no end.

SPEAKER_07 7:24

I hope I would make him laugh, but yeah, like that's funny. So that this is why I want to do the podcasts because he has gotten so much shit. So over the years, when everyone's like Ryan Adams did A B C and D, I'm like, Well, of course he did. He's that little fucking piece of shit. Who cares? Like, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Um with Ashley Simpson.

SPEAKER_07 7:52

He's a piece of remembering the SNL, like fucking thinking anyway.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Oh, yeah, yeah, the lip syncing thing, or whatever. Yeah, who cares about that? I I just got reminded about that like a couple days ago, and how embarrassing that was for her, and it ruined her career, or whatever. But so many people do it and they get called out on it, and they know they do it, but when this track skips, or whatever the fuck it does, it did for her, I can't remember exactly. It's so embarrassing they can't recover, but it's like everyone knows they're doing it anyway.

SPEAKER_07 8:27

Well, it's because it's live Saturday night live, and she wasn't like she's not fucking Beyonce, like Britney Spears dancing and needs to have, like right, you know. I don't know, it just kind of showed like how flimsy uh she is.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

Um, but I'm still a Millie Vanilli guy, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_07 8:47

Yeah, Millie Vanilli was great.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

They should just say like we produced that wasn't.

SPEAKER_07 8:52

I heard a recent Millie Vanilli song that was like fucking a jammer. Yeah, but anyway, I digress. I want to stay on topic. So here's how I went down the rabbit hole. Okay, I'm lonely as fuck living in this trailer, just trying to like every night around 7 p.m. I'm like, I just need to watch a funny movie and relax and go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

I'm sorry, can we talk about that for a while?

SPEAKER_05 9:23

No, oh okay, say we gotta stay on task.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

All right, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_07 9:27

So I download uh or I I I went on, I've never had seen the movie old school with Will Farrell. Do you know that movie? Yep, Vince Vaughn um fucking Luke Wilson.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Frank Frank the Tank. Yes, we're going streaking.

SPEAKER_07 9:51

So I was watching that show, and the song came on that was like When you're young, you get set when you're young. Oh, yeah, yeah. Is that Ryan? And you can get hi. Yeah, that's Ryan. Yeah, and I was like, Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

I never really do that. Okay, great. Yeah, it is a good song.

SPEAKER_07 10:17

So I started doing a little deep dive, and and I was like, Oh, I remember Ryan Adams said some shit in that uh documentary and book Meet Me in the Bathroom, which is a whole other like can of worms we could go into.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

Sure.

SPEAKER_07 10:35

Um, and I just want to say uh to forecast my vision for this pod is basically we're gonna do three episodes. So this is the first one is like the beginning, the discovery. We're going on a hero's journey. Okay, and then the second episode will be the accusations, the fuck-ups, the like getting getting canceled right during the Me Too movement. And then we're going to redemption, and I'm going to make a case as to why Ryan Adams should be redeemed. Um, and there are so so many reasons for that. So that's the idea.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

I'm here for the ride. I'm uh I'm saddling up and uh I'm I'm ready for what you got.

SPEAKER_07 11:33

Here for it.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

Um yeah, I'm here. I support you.

SPEAKER_07 11:37

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

I'm I'm I'm I'm ready to learn.

SPEAKER_07 11:42

Okay, so I took some notes on my phone, but I'm using it to do the IG Live.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

You forgot your phone.

SPEAKER_07 11:50

I no, I didn't. It's it's there. Um but I remember some of the things that I wrote down.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 11:59

That was the beginning. The beginning. Brian Cabrera.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

You can look at your phone. Fuck it. IG Live.

SPEAKER_07 12:05

Fuck it. We'll do it live. What are they gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 12:08

What are they gonna do? Cancel you?

SPEAKER_07 12:11

Idiots gonna do pieces of shit, asshole. How many people are on there? I'll I'll find out in a sec. Um, okay. Mandy Moore, we will discuss. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

Um I hope so.

SPEAKER_07 12:31

Oh, here's the thing is spell casting. Okay. So spell casting. Remember I texted you a clip from one person watching.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

That's all we need.

SPEAKER_07 12:53

Hi, stop and go live wires. It's like an ad.

SPEAKER_02 13:02

Hey, it's worth, I mean, it's we're early. We're like we had a good one last time. I know, but we're going live on a weekday while everyone is at work. Even people people on the east coast are just possibly now getting off work. So we'll we'll be lucky to get anyone.

SPEAKER_07 13:19

Well, we can put it on the gram and it'll like you know be there for um uh whatever that word is. Posterity. Yes. So I sent a clip from this like rando app service thing that like you can download that has live concerts and it's music content. And in this clip, um, which we could like set up a link somehow on our YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

Oh, I'll put a link in the show notes so people can watch. It was a cool little blurb of Ryan Adams talking about what you're what you're gonna say.

SPEAKER_07 14:04

So Ryan Adams, this is when I fell in love. I had no idea that he's really fucking smart. He's really fucking smart and he's extremely, extremely cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

And is he hot? That's the main question.

SPEAKER_07 14:24

I think he is, um, but that's another thing, that's another point of contention. Like his body has changed, his looks have changed, just like ours have in the throes of perimenopause. Um, and he has like a big face. He looks he looks fat because he has a big fucking face, okay? Okay, got some big cheekbones, maybe big and you need to be proud and yeah, you gotta have a fat ass. This ass. If you meet me, hold on, let me move the camera. Oh you meet me in an alley, I will beat the shit out of you because I have built all this like crystal and muscle and like weight behind me. So let's be proud of our bodies. But yes, I agree. Where was I?

SPEAKER_02 15:18

You were talking about how he's uh fat spellcasting fat face. Spell casting fat face, yes.

SPEAKER_07 15:28

Okay, so so he he demonstrated like with a guitar like hey, this thing is also a nerd. This thing is like a wizard's like staff wand, and it casts spells, it casts, it makes people fall in love. It makes some people have died for music, it has caused people to be born, like it is a creative unit. Kill people, sure. That that thing kills fascists, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Apparently.

SPEAKER_07 16:04

So apparently so that's what Woody Guthrie said.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

That's what he says. That's what he claimed.

SPEAKER_07 16:12

I'm saying, yes, our podcast, our little bitty podcast, is also a spellcaster because it's putting out, you know, everything we're saying here is going out into the world, and it's going out into the blue sky and the universe.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

So the ether and the the ether and the ether rags of all the uh degenerates out there, yes. I think ether rags, ether rags.

SPEAKER_07 16:45

What's that?

SPEAKER_02 16:46

S Hunter S. Thompson.

SPEAKER_07 16:49

Oh, oh, yeah, that's good. That's a good time.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

That's a good time, but but when I was watching that video of him talking about the guitar being uh like a spell caster, and it's caused all these beautiful things and harmful things, and it can do this, and it's got this power. I'm like, yes, it does, but so does this the pencil, yeah, pen, pencil, so does mightier than the sword.

SPEAKER_07 17:20

So does your mouth, so does uh that's why they call it spelling, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

But it's casting spells, but lots of form any instrument, lots of forms of expression cause those um waves of change, cause people to think uh cameras, things like you know what I mean. You know, you know how it is, but he's not wrong. I'm not saying he's wrong. I think the guitar, the guitar is exactly what it is a spellcaster, it has created and caused these things that he claims it has, but it's not the only thing, it's not the only thing, it's just but it is very a very powerful tool, and it's his tool of expression, yes.

SPEAKER_07 18:06

And that he understands musicians have a special talent that like I don't possess, I don't know how to play the fucking guitar. I'll show you if it's like a just a few chords and you press it down. I won't do it. I bought a drum set once to try to learn the drum once, and like, whoa, that was a mistake. Um yeah, so I appreciate music, and I think that people who play music, I think they're neurodivergent in a way where they like feel they feel sound, and it's it's like the easiest thing to do for them. Um of course it takes training and hard at work.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

I will I will get a little, as our generation says, get emo about it a little bit. Get what get emo about it, um, about playing music and the expression of music and how important it is to me, because music is one of the only things besides film, sometimes photographs or whatever, or a human experience, but there's yeah, films. There's a the only one of the only forms of expression that makes me cry is music, like the most, the most. Like if I if I if I hear a song from a stranger, and it's exactly what he's talking about. It I mean, you can write lyrics, you can write a melody, you can write, you can put it all together, and uh it does something to the world, not the whole world, but the people that are listening, some people fucking hate it, some people love it, some people cry about it, some people think it's the greatest thing, some people think it's the dumbest thing.

SPEAKER_07 19:51

It doesn't and there's a lot of genres, and people are very passionate about certain things and certain artists.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

But when you express yourself that way, and I'm not a singer, even though I write songs, and I'm trying to I've been trying to psych myself up for over 20 years to like sing for real, but that's a whole other emotive um avenue that an artist can take that I don't understand. I I play I can write songs on guitar and I can play songs on guitar, but I've been in bands obviously where people sing, and it's um it's obviously emotional to the point where if they wrote the lyrics and it's about a specific thing that they don't really want to think about anymore, it doesn't matter if it's a hit or not, they're like, I don't want to play that fucking song anymore because I don't want to think about that shit anymore. Like it's you know, it's one way to do it.

SPEAKER_07 20:45

It's it's deep-rooted stuff that touches other people outside of your own because we all have similar experiences, but you can latch on to other a person's interpretation, it's a connection, and people can relate, and this is why we're a good team because like I can't play music, but I can certainly write a fucking poem, and I love to sing, sure.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

You know, you sing before I sing for sure.

SPEAKER_07 21:14

So, you know, we all have these gifts, and we're all like little uh diamonds with these facets, and each one is important, and like the neurodivergent creative people are kind of like slime, you know, the slime flubber stuff, and then the rest of the world is like a freaking grid, it's like a grid, and you try to slam the freaking slime into the grid, and it's it's hard for a lot of creative people um to like navigate that world, and people within that world can appreciate the chaos because artists deliver something. That sublimates that makes everything like elevated and beautiful and causes emotion. Um, so yes, so this dude is like a well of emotion and has gotten in trouble because he has said some things when he gets uh all fiery and shitty and acts like a dick to his own. That's what he says. I'm a basically like, I have acted like a dick, and I'm like, well, we'll go into the accusations on another episode, but I'm like, he's behaving like a uh rock star. Like, what do you expect? You know, me personally, Jim Morrison's like not banging all these chicks outside of his anyway, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Oh, I I personally it's funny rock stardom, like because how people react to stories of how people are because I and I'm sure you as well just want people to be nice and good, and you want to hear nothing but nice things, but when you hear your hero, you're like, that's my hero.

SPEAKER_07 23:20

How I can't believe they said that, or yeah, that's Michael fucking Jackson. I can't believe he looked at a child's butthole. Watch Fighting Neverland people, okay? And I still love Michael Jackson. It's anyway. Sorry to say child's butthole. We are sponsored by Pampers, Grateful Dead Bear, Alps, and Pee-Wee Herman is no longer with us. Give me a second, I'm gonna take a break. Why don't you talk to the people?

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Well, I was gonna say I heard a story yesterday about an artist I uh enjoy, and some friends of friends went on tour with him. And secondhand story was he wasn't that cordial to them until the last day of tour where he finally acknowledged, like, oh hey, it was nice touring with you, even though I didn't talk to you the whole fucking time, and you hate hearing stuff like that because you like the person's music, and that is what it is. But what I was I think what I was alluding to is there are people we accept assholey from more than others, um, but I think it's you gotta be pretty well established to be known as an asshole that's hard to work with, and it's more acceptable if you're known to be an asshole, which is actually kind of annoying. Like, Steve Albini was known to be not an asshole, but like difficult, very opinion.

SPEAKER_05 25:13

I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

He's a producer, he just passed away, he produced a lot of albums you love, and he was also he was in a bunch of bands that whatever he's great legend, um, but known, opinionated, hard ass in his own way, but a heart of gold, a heart of fucking gold. Like you respect him because he's has a gruff way of communicating, and he's very straightforward and very honest. He's a producer, you know he's not, you know, he's got a heart of gold. Now, Ryan Adams, on the other hand, I don't know if this guy has a heart of gold, or if he's selfish, arrogant, a total piece of shit, or if he's like a piece of shit tortured artist that has a heart of gold, which I can tolerate all of those things, we are all those things.

SPEAKER_07 26:15

Sorry, finish your thought.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

No, I'm I'm just saying there's a difference between total assholes and total assholes with a heart of gold.

SPEAKER_07 26:24

Agreed, and this is kind of why I want to bring it up is that I I went, I'm still in the rabbit hole, like I'm watching all kinds of YouTube shit and some IG life stuff that he's done, and some uh interviews, and this guy is a sweetheart, he's just a sweet, sweet person, and he has like all these cats that he takes care of, and he has a very uh gentle tone and gentle way of being and speaking.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Is it his public persona?

SPEAKER_07 27:01

It's yeah, his public persona is different, and also like we don't know his personal persona. He's put out like 30 studio albums. Um, and I gotta be, you know, my critique is I don't like the studio studio albums as much as I like to watch and listen to him sing and play live because it really um shows off he knows all he he fucking lays down the the bass, the drums, the guitar, the lyrics, everything. And he has this very prolific way of writing songs that he calls stacks. And stacks is I don't know if it's like a th an actual thing, but he demonstrated that he would just grab like a thesaurus, um, a book of lists, um some like uh pulp fiction and something else, right? And so he opens up the um pulp fiction first. And he said something like this guy laughed at the door and like blah blah blah blah blah, whatever. So so he then writes, he writes his own like shit for it, and then he just adds, adds, adds, and that's how he's writing the song. He's not even really necessarily taking a store a real story, but he explained that like it's like mad lips. Like your this is how he's writing lyrics creativity shines through when we read the mad lips, right? Makes us laugh.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

That's how he's writing lyrics.

SPEAKER_07 28:51

Brought to you by modello especial. So anyway, I'm just like enamored and fascinated and energized, and that's kind of what I wanted to bring up is that like going into the personal shit a little bit, I have got I have just gone on my own hero's journey. This is like my second or third massive life um explosion, and I'm living in this RV in the desert next to a great guy named Larry, and it's just me and my dog, and I see my kids when I can. It's a whole other fucking thing. But somehow watching this stupid movie, old school, which uh is actually pretty fucking funny, um, and getting this earworm of this song that he did, it just inspired me, and spring is here, you know, and us with the bipolar disorder, we ride during spring. This is our this is our like reawakening. And so I would like to use the like inspiration and focus to like help. It's like art therapy. It's like I want to utilize this channel and avenue of just focusing on this Ryan Adams stuff right now because I'm interested in it, because I want to like follow my bliss. Not go wrong, really. You you can do some really fucked up things when you follow your bliss, but it does lead you somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

I'll ride those coattails.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

Well, it's interesting too because uh I just went and saw uh me and the boy went and saw Project Hail Mary, which we both really enjoyed, and there's a scene in it, and I had watched the SNL like the week before with Ryan Gosling and Harry Styles, they were there together, and I'm not I don't know shit about Harry Styles. Harry Styles is a fucking rad. See, okay, I know that now because well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 31:24

I'm not gonna say fully rad, but there was a mention he he's a little baby Elton John.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

I wouldn't see, I kind of I see it now, but there was um on the SNL thing with us right about a joke, yeah, with Ryan Gosling, but hot Harry Styles was there. It's a great episode if you haven't watched it. It really actually is a really good, playful SNL episode. I actually really enjoyed it, and I don't enjoy comedy, is another many of them great avenue for sure spellcast. Sure, but um we watched there, was they mentioned this song of Harry Styles during the SNL episode, and I didn't know what the fuck they were talking about at the time. I just had no fucking clue because I never heard the song.

SPEAKER_07 32:10

Yeah, I just kind of it was a fun joke, and it was like oh, that's like a boy band song or something, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:16

I knew it was a Harry Styles song, but I didn't fucking know it. Then we go and watch the movie, and there's a whole scene with the song Sign of the Times, and it's amazing, and the movie's great, and I love the movie, and I loved the scene, and I loved the song. I was like, Oh, that's the song they were talking about on SNL, like the joke was all about whatever, and dude, I'm obsessed with that song now. I fucking love that song because of the movie, and I guess essentially because of SNL, even though I didn't really recognize it at the time, and then I watched the video and I'm kind of disappointed because Harry Styles looks like he's like 15, but he looks like he's the thing, it's like the public person looks like he should be 40. He like that is this is a very mature, beautiful song, and he's all wrong the way they market these people, anyway. But I see what you're saying because this has happened to me many, many times in life. You watch a movie, and this is why music supervisors and things are so important, they find the perfect song for the moment, and it sells the moment, but it also sells the song, and like I love that song sign of the times now because of Project Hail Mary, and you love Ryan Adams because of this fucking dumb scene in old school because it was perfectly timed, and like the music supervisor, whoever chose the song for that moment, nailed it, and we're talking about it. And nailed it, it's perfect, it's it's you know, it's a blending of of of the arts there, visual and and so let me let me segue into the grateful dead and Ryan X. Well, I knew because we always somehow end up on the Grateful Dead.

SPEAKER_07 34:05

I don't know well, yes, because the doctor is a deadhead, and I do have my what do you call that fucking thing stethoscope? Yes, I have my stethoscope in storage, you know. This part again, hero's journey. I don't need it around my neck to know I'm a fucking doctor. Okay, so so Ryan Adams somehow he got on the Mark Marin podcast because Mark Marin saw a clip of him playing like I can see that I can see that because Mark Marin is a musician and he he I love listening to Mark talk to musicians because he's like he needs to look at this particular episode of Mark Marin's podcast.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

I actually miss Mark Marin's podcast because he quit or he didn't quit, but he stopped. He lives around here, he lives like well, no, he's he lives in LA, but he's from Albuquerque.

SPEAKER_07 35:08

No, no, no, he's from Albuquerque. Oh, that's why.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

Okay, I was I listened to his I listened to his podcast until the end.

SPEAKER_07 35:20

He doesn't live in New Mexico anymore, but he grew up there, and his his dad's just like yeah, because he opened for like Rory Scovel.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Oh, yeah, no, he's he is New Mexican, he is a new Mexican person. New Jersey 505, shout out New Mexico by way of New Jersey, but he's like New Mexican, but he's lives in LA and his dad, and I can't remember if his mom is still alive or not, but it his dad's still in Albuquerque, and he still goes to Albuquerque. He went to high school in Albuquerque, he's an Albuquerque dude.

SPEAKER_06 35:50

No, that Demi Moore is also from Albuquerque.

SPEAKER_02 35:53

I didn't know that. Really?

SPEAKER_04 35:56

Anywho, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

So um, I love listening to Mark Marin talk to musicians and um highly, I guess, skilled actors because he is trying to be but he's an aspiring musician and actor, so he really kind of digs into him about like what like what do you what's your process? What do you do? Like, he because he wants to learn because he loves it, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And I think Ryan Adams is the style of music that Mark really likes. He likes that.

SPEAKER_07 36:34

Well, he and and he didn't know, he was like, Oh, I've heard shitty things about this dude, and um turns out motherfucker is friends with uh or was friends with Phil Lesh, and he like has performed, um, and there's a deep connection there, all from this little Wharf rat video. You know, that's Mark Marin's song. That's Mark Maron's like favorite Grateful Dead song, and so he was like, that's how he discovered that Ryan Adams isn't just this like piss of shit um Ryan Cabrera.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

You know, you know who's better friends with the Grateful Dead?

SPEAKER_07 37:17

Oh, little baby Johnny Mayer.

SPEAKER_02 37:19

Little baby John Mayer, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 37:21

Little baby Johnny Mayer did a great job. I mean, like he's BFFs. That was another instance of this where I'm like, what this fucking douchebag is gonna be Jerry? He comes out in sweatpants and a t-shirt, and he's just like incredible. Oh, yeah, incredible.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Yeah, I can only imagine. Um, there's a joke that my friend, who is a rock and roll rigger, like used to build the stages and tour rock and roll. He has this joke, it's like, why do deadheads dance like this? Okay, why to keep the bad is that the joke? No, no, to keep the bad music out of their face.

SPEAKER_07 38:06

Oh, to keep the bad music out of their face, yeah. Whatever, it's super punk rock, it's super everything. Get a grip, don't hate. Poop on your butt. I the poop on your butt right now. I hate you for saying that.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

The the punchline uh might have been uh oh no no no. Actually, the punchline was way I I I botched it. It was it was to keep the smell of shit out of their face.

SPEAKER_07 38:36

No, I think it's to keep the weed smoke out of their face, it was to keep the smell of the shitty music out of their face. Incense.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Yeah, something like that. Anywho, next, yes, next.

SPEAKER_07 38:53

So next, I I do have an idea. Um we will organize this in some kind of a way, but this is not how our brains work. Um I want to talk uh just uh briefly about um meet me in the bathroom.

SPEAKER_02 39:17

You mean like familiar? You mean that like just the what socially when you tell someone to meet you in the bathroom?

SPEAKER_07 39:24

It's a book.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Google no, I don't know about this.

SPEAKER_07 39:28

Meet me in the bathroom. Meet me in the bathroom, and it's a book, and it's also documentary that documents the yeah yeah yes, the moldy peaches, the strokes. Okay, and it's all New York City pre-9-11, like right at 9-11 times.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

You know what's crazy on honestly, the strokes, yeah, yeah, yeah. You said moldy peaches.

SPEAKER_07 39:55

Oh, and the L C D sound system.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

L C D. These folks are what our age.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

Maybe maybe a we're the little Gen Z, like millennial.

SPEAKER_07 40:13

We're Gen X. We're Gen X, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

No, I'm we're Gen X 100.

SPEAKER_07 40:18

We are fucking Gen X. We're elder, little baby Gen X, elder millennial. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

But these folks, when we were in college, they they probably are a couple years older than us in all reality. Like what two, one, two, three years older than us.

SPEAKER_07 40:38

Uh stroke, dude.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Napster, yeah. But the strokes, I remember I feel like they were younger than us because they were so young when they is younger, is a little bit younger, like a year or two younger, whatever.

SPEAKER_07 40:53

Yeah, and so is Adam Green is a little bit younger than me. Um, but I have trivia about Ryan Adams. He was born in 1974.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

Four?

SPEAKER_07 41:09

No way, he's not, he's one year older than my brother.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

I don't want to say he's old, but he's I didn't think he was 51.

SPEAKER_07 41:16

He is 50 at this time of our recording, he is 51 years old.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

I thought he was our age. I seriously thought he was like 45 years old.

SPEAKER_07 41:26

No, he he's a contemporary with these other kids. Same with yeah, yeah, yes, like Sharon O, I believe is the same age as um Brian Adams.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

So they're like, okay, so they were getting big when we were in college, and maybe we assumed they were we were in college when shit was happening, and then here's the kicker when 9-11 happened, everyone aged 10 years.

SPEAKER_07 41:53

Everyone was surprised, yes, when 9-11 happened for the bush, everyone was very surprised, right? And all those bands were living in New York City and experiencing like the chaos and fallout and just the like fucking mindfuck that it was, and so um Ryan Adams happened to have shot a video for this song called I Loved You New York, something like that. I think that's it. And he should he shot it in front of the Twin Towers four days before they were hit, and so that video apparently played on MTV like repeatedly uh to show the the Twin Towers and I Love You New York, and it was like a perfect storm, a perfect magical thing that happened for him. So that's the like that's how these things exploded. Oh, quite literally. Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

I was gonna say, well, I remember um the coup, the hip hop group the coup had the opposite experience where I can't remember the name of the album, but they had an album that was supposed to come out that day or that week where it was them holding a detonator and pressing the button, and they were just like making a face.

SPEAKER_04 43:23

Yeah, I remember shit like that same thing.

SPEAKER_02 43:25

And the twin towers are blowing up behind them. Yeah, the twin towers are blowing up blowing up behind them, like the coup was detonating the twin towers, and it was supposed to come out like the on 9-11 or the week or week after 9-11, and they had to scrap the whole cover.

SPEAKER_07 43:42

See, this is all connected with the like spell casting situation, like not to make light of these of that tragedy and that horrible thing. And I didn't uh I have met him at a dog sat for a man who was a firefighter that day. Um We were here in Santa Fe. Remember we talked about our 9-11 story? I believe we were balconies across from each other. Because I was at Super Salad. I said, 9-11, I need a salad. So I went to the rooftop Super Salad. And you and your Franz were at the coyote cantina drinking.

SPEAKER_03 44:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 44:23

And I do believe we had a because like no one was at the plaza. No one's in the plaza. You know, we're all watching our televisions and the College of Santa Fe had a fucking class called World Environmental Politics. And it discussed the World Bank the same year that this happened. So my being from Indiana, living in New Mexico, being like 19, no, it happened in 2001, I was 21 years old. I didn't really have a I'd never been to New New York. I didn't have a reference for uh what were the Twin Towers, but inside the Twin Towers is the World Bank. Okay, people, you can go on your own little 9-11 conspiracy theory shit after this.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

Feel free.

SPEAKER_07 45:22

But I was a super salad.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

You were a super salad, and I was at Coyote Cafe. I remember that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 45:30

So anyway, a lot of shit has shifted and happened that day. Um, so yeah, so Ryan Adams got famous, and then I guess he was I don't even know what song you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 45:42

I gotta look this video up.

SPEAKER_04 45:44

I didn't know it either.

SPEAKER_02 45:45

Yeah, I gotta I gotta check this out because I've never still love you new y'all. I love you, New York by Ryan Adams. That's the name of the song. I love you new york. Don't like that. Okay, I'll just I'm sure it'll pop up. Okay, I did not know this was an actual thing.

SPEAKER_07 46:07

I don't really like that song very much.

SPEAKER_02 46:09

Oh, New York, New York.

SPEAKER_07 46:11

Oh, it's called New York, New York. I'm sorry for previously getting that wrong. Oh, I just love him so much.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

Three point sixteen. It was uploaded on YouTube apparently 16 years ago by someone and three and a half million views.

SPEAKER_07 46:28

So this is what I'm talking about is like okay. Hold on, let me organize this thought for a second.

SPEAKER_01 46:35

Right.

SPEAKER_07 46:37

I am bringing my kids to Los Angeles to go see the moldy peaches at the Hollywood Bowl. And the reason I am doing this is to show them that like these are real people. Okay. So um, I have a friend who went to high school with Adam Green, and he started with a little like four-track player. Kimmy Dawson's basically his babysitter or whatever, they be at a record store, they're just handing out tapes, doing stupid shows in New York, wearing stupid little like outfits and costumes, and um they get traction. And so I want to show my kids like these are real fucking people, like this is how things actually begin. And so don't look at like oh, everything's like a rock star, famous actor, whatever. Like, no, they are people who just like followed the the avenue and maybe got some luck and had some talent, and it all is the perfect storm.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Yeah. Oh that's uh that's a good way to approach it. Um because they seem like they carry themselves like regular folks, right? I assume. I don't know them.

SPEAKER_07 48:01

But uh even though they're playing the Hollywood Bowl, I'd imagine they're so here's the funniest part on Earth people those motherfuckers are playing the intermission at the Hollywood Bowl between uh do you know the band Bright Eyes?

SPEAKER_02 48:16

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 48:17

I don't either.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

No, no, I no, I I know it's Colin Oberst, and I'm not a fan.

SPEAKER_04 48:23

He's well, I'm not a fan either, and that's that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:27

Uh huge, he's huge, he's fine. Hold up. I just don't like him. I don't like we are going there specifically and only for the moldy peaches.

SPEAKER_07 48:37

Okay, so we're gonna arrive late and we're gonna leave early.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

Great, yeah, great, yeah. Uh uh I mean, I'm not Colin Oberst was like huge when we were in college. He's from he's like from the Omaha scene, he's from um I want to say Saddle Creek records. There's a lot of stuff I like from that region and that record label, but not him. But he was like the biggest, the biggest of them all or whatever. But I just don't just people not my thing, not my thing.

SPEAKER_07 49:14

Yeah, I've heard some problematic things actually about um some band members, and this is also why we're leaving early. Um we'll discuss this at another time. Um, but okay, so Ryan Adams, Ryan Adams got vilified in this book and this great fucking documentary because he was using uh cocaine and heroin at the time.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

How dare he?

SPEAKER_07 49:46

Yeah, a raw a musician abusing uh tortured and heroin. Neva void of it.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

How dare he?

SPEAKER_07 49:55

So so he's using and like apparently a member of the strokes. I don't remember his name, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Um they're all like really long Italian names. I mean they're they're like hard to remember. They're really, I mean, they're beautiful names, but they are really hard to remember.

SPEAKER_07 50:13

Julian Casablanca's father is a model agency.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

Yeah, yeah. I remember anyway hearing about that.

SPEAKER_07 50:20

These fuckers were like, you were supplied to Ryan Adams. They took him to a restaurant or bar or something, and they had like an intervention, and they're like, You need to stop supplying our bandmate with drugs um because he like we need him, we need him to work and we care about him. And I guess Ryan Adams went up and went to the bathroom and they left. So they all like ghosted him and were like, You're not part of our they mean girls to him, you're not part of our group anymore. And Ryan Adams says, I would never have given that guy those drugs because I cared about him and I liked him. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. Who fucking cares? You're 25 years old doing drugs in Manhattan. Welcome to the fucking why vilify and end a career for this like prolific, amazing singer. Anyway, that's one of the accusations that we'll discuss in our next episode.

SPEAKER_02 51:25

Okay. Um looking forward to it. Don't know much about them, except I like I told you, I'm a fan of the Whiskey Town album Strangers Almanac, which was his band before he went solo. And I don't know who else was in the band. Um, but they got a lot of really they got a they got some really fucking good songs, and I was just playing my Koba's uh you know playlist on Shuffle, running some errands here a couple hours ago. Second song that comes on in town by Whiskey Town. I'm like brings me back every time.

SPEAKER_07 52:07

Like I fucking, you know, it's pure, it's like pure American rock and roll country.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

Love it. Like he's he was a part of a great band that wrote some really good songs, and uh solo-wise, I'm not I don't know enough the song you're talking about called the the Cardinals, hmm, and David Letterman is I remember that Ryan Adams and the Cardinals is that what it's called, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. That and I love that as a band name. How has no one ever named their fucking band the Cardinals? I mean, it's a boring sports team name or whatever, but as a band name, it actually you could have some really I don't know, it sounds kind of cool. Strong, it's cool in that context. American. I like the Cardinals in a band context more than a sports context.

SPEAKER_07 52:57

It's a great band, there it's beautiful, and I I also saw a Henry Rollins show. This is my favorite like performance, actually. One of my favorite performances. It's he's younger, he's like hella skinny during this time, so people also give him shit for his his um body.

SPEAKER_02 53:17

He's gone through Rollins or Ryan M's.

SPEAKER_07 53:20

No, no, yeah, Ryan M. So uh, yeah, so the Henry Rollins show, Ryan M's in the cards, or whatever. You guys have to look at this. There's like a few songs, and they're just like dirty, deep, like loosey, like grateful dead, like fucking but the jamming sesh, it's like okay, these people are brilliant, like they're wonderful musicians, and so I really recommend that.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

I'll look at that for sure. I would love to see that because uh I feel like I'll be more drawn to Ryan Adams live than his recorded stuff for some reason, which I don't which I don't say about I I never say that ever.

SPEAKER_07 54:13

But Ryan Adams, it's a big difference, actually.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

He has quite a catalog, and I don't know where to start, so I'll just start live.

SPEAKER_07 54:23

Watch some live shows, and you can see like the talent, like oh, but this this is not like a pop star, right? This is a very talented, gifted right fan.

SPEAKER_02 54:35

So, so what is it before we depart on our fourth anniversary?

SPEAKER_07 54:42

Uh show anniversary, happy anniversary, four years, even though we only did a few pods every little once in a while.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

I don't even know if we've done 10 a year, but we're here.

SPEAKER_07 54:53

We're here, we're here, we're here, and we're here for it, and we're ready to advance to the next level.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do at least five episodes of this year, I think.

SPEAKER_07 55:04

There will be at least three episodes on Ryan Adams, at least three on Ryan Adams.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

This could be just the year of Ryan Adams, and then that's all we do.

SPEAKER_07 55:12

That would be great.

SPEAKER_02 55:15

2026.

SPEAKER_07 55:16

Honestly, to unpack everything, he's also a writer. I just bought one of his novels. Um, he designs pinball machines. Like this dude is a creator, like he's just putting out like uh content constantly.

SPEAKER_02 55:32

A country musician that uh writes novels, Willie Vlom.

SPEAKER_07 55:38

Yeah, I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

He's a forgan guy. He's written well.

SPEAKER_07 55:44

We like those. We we love those musician autobiographies. I started reading fleece, then I stopped. Because you know what? Happen shit hit the fan in my personal life. It's called Acid for the Children.

SPEAKER_02 56:04

Before okay, but I do want to read that. I I just watched the Red Hot Chili Peppers documentary.

SPEAKER_07 56:10

That's uh is a good documentary.

SPEAKER_02 56:12

That's not a Red Hot, that apparently is not a Red Hot Chili Peppers documentary, it's not an official one, even though it totally fucking is. Oh, it's not well they'll show their roots and like their well, they came out and said that it was a documentary about Hillel and not a full-fledged um authorized abruptly documentary about the red hot chili peppers, but you watch it and it is a fucking bona fide, authorized documentary about the history of the red hot flea and they're telling their whole life stories and how the and there's little like high school kids just like fucking around, and then Anthony Kidas is like on the sidelines watching other bands exactly. If it's not an official documentary, they ought to unauthorized, yes, they ought to make it an authorized because it it was a very thorough telling of the beginnings of the band, yeah. It was whether it was focused on Hillel or not, it told me we got theories about this. I'm not even going to get into, but okay, so red-hot chili peppers aside, who I saw at Wood Woodstock 99, by the way, when the riots were going on.

SPEAKER_07 57:35

Uh so we're wrapping up, we're wrapping up, and we are going to have more.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

What's the question? What the main thing that I have because I'm as I to me, I'm kind of a listener in this situation, just like um the listeners. What is it about Ryan Adams that you feel deserves a three-part redemption arc? Why do we need to do this?

SPEAKER_07 58:06

I'll tell you what it is. I'll tell you what it is. So um, I watched some interviews where he talks about like his early days and also the on the Mark Marin podcast. He talks about growing up in like, I think it's Jacksonville, North Carolina, and he hangs out at his grandparents' house. This is the hook, right? Because we love the old people. So he like spends quite a bit of time at his grandparents' house rather than his mom's, and they like live together and whatever. So he has all these references like for old timey shit, and references for the early 80s and growing up skateboarding. And um, a neighbor like had a half pipe in their yard, and they wouldn't let him skate on it, they'd run him off. So he would go in and he would sweep, he would sweep the half pipe and eventually come come back after New York and everything and actually live in the house where that half half pipe is. So, anyway, when I watched him speak, he is effortless, effortlessly cool and also a big nerd, a big like Star Wars. Oh, I know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 59:37

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 59:38

Here it is.

SPEAKER_01 59:39

Here we go. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 59:41

So there's some live performance where he's fucking referencing the show Moonlighting. Do you remember that show?

SPEAKER_02 59:49

Bruce Willis, yeah. Bruce Willis and um I forget the female lead, I really forget.

SPEAKER_07 59:55

Um she's Sybil Shepard.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

Sybil Shepherd, okay.

SPEAKER_07 59:59

And I remember when I was little, I'm five years, six years younger than he is. My brother's five years older, all gathering in my parents' bedroom to watch Moonlight. Mom watched Moonlight Moonlighting, and we would get to stay up because she really wanted to stay up and watch it. And so I watched Moonlighting as a kid, and he references Moonlighting in this stupid way, and he actually has an album, uh, the moonlighting album. He goes in the story arc of what moonlighting is about, and you know, he's chatting up the audience, and um that was it. I was sold. I was like, this guy is fucking smart. I'd love his references, I'd love his like how cool he is and how shitty he is, and how dorky he is. Like I just want to be his friend. Actually, I'd like to be a little more than that. I'd like to be his personal caregiver. This is something else we haven't brought up that we will bring up. Okay, is he has mid miniers disease.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:10

Um, and it's an inner ear situation um that we could talk about.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:14

Is that like a balance issue and a hearing issue?

SPEAKER_07 1:01:18

Or he explained it like a like apparently there's like oil in this duct.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:26

I don't know what the fuck it is.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:27

And yes, it's a balance issue. He feels seasick and has vertigo, also has epilepsy. So lights, flashing lights, will like um he said he feels like he's standing on the edge of a cliff, like he's gonna fall down. So now pictures of him, people are body shaming and hating on him. He's an older man now, he's 51. He's he's um walking with a cane, he's dressing very dapper, and he has put on some weight. And um, I don't know, I can relate to that. I can relate to the physical, like uh with my degenerative disc disease. Um, and I also have the neurodivergence, so I just feel like we are very much alike, and so I'm very like super inspired by by him.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

Okay, I see that, and he's still making music and still doing his thing, and like it seems like he makes music every day. I would I can imagine a person like him can't stop because it's just uh who he is, obsessive.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:44

Yeah, like there's a few IG live videos you can find on YouTube. There's like a three-hour long one of him at his house with mostly just him, and he's laying down tracks for like each instrument. And then I was very impressed because he's playing the drums like fucking perfectly, he's playing the bass perfectly, he's doing the harmonica thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

Like and you want to take care of this guy.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:10

I want to take care of him because you know what? He could be in a he could be in a wheelchair sometime. And yeah, lastly, I hope I know we are running out of time, but apparently one of his band partners somehow we'll have to look it up, is the son of Glynnis Johns. Do you know who Glynnis Johns is?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:34

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:35

So she was in the movie. Most people will know her from she was in Mary Poppins, and she was like the mom. She wore the yellow outfit and the hat, and she was like singing, like, we're gonna, you know, women's rights. I can't remember what it was. But I was working at Belmont Village in Hollywood next to the Hollywood Bowl, and Glynis Johns lived lived there. And I was like, this is a grand dom, like she is something special because I think she she ended up doing like you know, winning Tonies and things like that. But yeah, there's like these little connections, and you know, I also, you know, he played with Jenny Lewis, and I love Jenny Lewis.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:26

Love Jenny Lewis.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:28

The Watson twins played with Jenny Lewis.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:31

I love the Jenny Lewis and Watson twins album. I got it, I got it. It's a classic.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:36

So and and the Watson twins were at my sister-in-law's um uh wedding shower, and they were the coolest fucking motherfuckers, down-to-earth southern chicks, and then they came and played here in Santa Fe, and I got to um see them, and it's just nice, and I just feel like um this is an attain. So, my attainable goal truly is just to get him on the podcast. That that is it, and then naturally he will fall in love with me and he will need me, and so I'm gonna have to play hard to get.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

You say he's gonna leave you or lead lead you, need okay. I was like, Jesus, you're getting way far ahead of yourself there.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:30

No, no, okay. No, I don't care what happens, he's a rock and roll star. I'm Perryman Apausle, he can bang all the chicks he wants. I just want to be, you know, that Neil Young song, A Man Needs a Maid.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:44

That's who I want to be for Ryan Adams.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:47

You know, Russ never sleeps. I love it. Uh let's see, let's see if he buys. I mean, with my plan with my reach on blue sky, it's sky's the limit. Blue sky's the limit.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:08

Sky's the limit. This is our fourth anniversary today, and we're doing this like really expansive, cool thing. And in my storage unit, also are these like cool, like old comic book art books. And on his Instagram, he has listed his like managers and agents. And so I'm gonna mail each one of them a different book.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:33

You and I need to get merch. We need a fucking stickers and t-shirts.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:38

Okay, easy enough.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:41

I already started something up on Shopify.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

Oh Shopify. Okay. I you know, we'll talk about it. I got um people that I've gone through in the past that are are reliable and nice.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:58

I mean, anything better than Shopify. Is that what we're talking about?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:03

I can get some local, I can get some local shit made here in Portland. I'd rather do that. The Portland area. Sorry, not in Portland, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:13

All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:13

Well, I know you got a uh baseball game to get to for your no no, he's he's got baseball practice, um practice, and we're going to the coast tomorrow for vacation, so that's gonna be awesome, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:31

And me and him are gonna be going to the dog pub.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:36

You brought your dog to the studio.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:40

This my studio is the goddamn 40-foot trailer.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:47

Oh, wait a minute. All right, I see.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:50

Yeah, and I also went on a field trip with my kid to the fucking Los Alamos museum. I let them have it in my notes. Feedback glorified the bombing of Hiroshima and change it, do better. This is fucked up. How about you have some uh engineering things talking about renewable energy and not like bombing shit for oil? It was the most propaganda museum, and it was very fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:27

Interesting. I've only been to that town because our our buddy Trev is from there, uh who went to see us at Trev.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:34

Shout out to Trev. Um Trevor Trev Trevor Chris.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:38

Yeah, I love him, love him. He's still one of my best friends. Talk to him all the time, but I've only been to Los Alamos because he's from there, and uh such a weird place. Yeah, it is a very weird place. The uh just when you are in New Mexico and you go to Los Alamos and the the architecture of the buildings and the houses the houses are cool, yeah. Because the apparently the scientists and engineers and everyone that they brought in for the labs were allowed to bring in their own people to design their houses, and they're from the east coast, and there's like Grady Bunch. They're all like there's like colonials, there's like East Coast looking red bread.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:18

Santa Fe is all for those who don't know, it's all Adobe or Stucco, and they're very square houses, flat roofs, and in Los Alamos they're like regular houses, yes that you see that you see throughout the country. And one last thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:36

Yeah, uh I saw a fucking storefront in a strip mall, and it says space nukes space nukes, space nukes, n-u-k-es-nuclear shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:54

So I looked it up, it's actually very uh it's probably a good thing. It's like it's doing like nuclear energy, not nuclear bombs. I was like, oh my god, they got nuclear weapons out in space. They probably do.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:10

That's where they belong, to be honest.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:13

Keep them out there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:15

I mean, do with Artemis 2 out there right now doing the best.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:20

Shout out Artemis 2. Seriously, I heard your bathroom's not working very well.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:25

Uh, they fixed it. But that's isn't that funny that that you know, that's this the story. The first couple days out is their toilet, the first space toilet's broken.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:37

And then if I were an astronaut, I would bring live salt. You can't have a modello without a lime salt, you dummy.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:50

You fucking amateurs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:55

Deal with it. Oh all right, let's go. We're gonna leave. We're gonna be next episode. Maybe we won't yak so much about ourselves. There are probably people who want to see content of Ryan Adams, but we're also very fucking interesting people.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:15

I agree. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:17

Oh, one thing, hold on, wait.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:19

Here we go.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:21

God damn it, where'd it go? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:27

Get ready. Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:31

So little baby Oni.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:34

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:35

He ate Connie's teeth.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:40

She's back, people.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:41

Oh god, you got a new set? I think I got a new set.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:44

I got a new set.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:45

Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you use the chewed upset?

SPEAKER_07 1:11:49

Oh, they were, yeah, they were they're not gonna fit over my fucking teeth.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:52

Was it too bad?

SPEAKER_07 1:11:54

I mean, like oh yeah, he the chewed up.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

Oh, I was gonna say the chewed upset might be funnier.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:01

But I did find this.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:03

Might hurt more.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:04

Do you see this?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:05

Who is that? David Lee Roth. No fucking way. I saw that is okay. Yesterday I saw a billboard for David Lee Roth playing the fucking casino out here.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:19

Yes, he's touring right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:21

His fucking I was laughing out loud because of course the picture of his face is funny on the billboard. Because you can just see him, like he can't he can't stop moving, and he doesn't like parking. Oh god, like he's always just like he's electric. Yeah, he's electric.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:41

There was a time this is I'm dead fucking serious for like a year when I when I was living in LA, yeah, we bought this like little Dell Sol, it was like a little convertible, like like fucking, I don't even know what you call it. Um, but we had this little shitty car, it got stolen. But during that time, every fucking time I turn on the radio, no shit, might as well jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, go ahead and jump. And I was like, this is like hold on, I gotta move the camera.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:18

There it is. I love it.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:19

I was like, this is some amazing shit. Yeah, how lucky.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:25

Anyway, well, Diamond Dave is uh on tour, apparently, so that's go see your people, man. I'm not gonna go see him, but I that's just fucking hilarious. You showed me that pen because I was laughing at that fucking billboard. I've I've never seen a David Lee Roth billboard in my life until yesterday.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:46

Yeah, he's got short hair now, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:48

And he's just a koop.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:50

He's a cook I should I should buy tickets. I saw Tracy Morgan at a casino and I couldn't fucking see him, and these stupid bitches were talking the whole time, and I was like, structure, I didn't pay to see you talk this whole time, and then this girl was like, Oh, I already saw you like looking at me, and uh, you already turned around four times, and I'm like, Yes, dang, that was a good new Mexican impression. Well, you know, I like to do impressions.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:22

Was it a new Mexican person that you were mad at?

SPEAKER_07 1:14:25

Oh, yeah, it was in Albuquerque. Okay, but black people there can like to bring up black people because there aren't any fucking black African American people in New Mexico, and they were all at the Tracy Morgan show, and so like the woman next to me, it was so cute, she's like a church going lady, and she was on a date, and everything he said, I swear to god, he spent the whole hour talking about his dick, the whole time, using the microphone as a dick, making fucked up Tracy Morgan was oh, yeah, okay, and it was like the most obscene, like free speech, hilarious shit I've ever seen. And this woman the whole time is like but having the best time, she is so embarrassed.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:17

She probably went home and had the freakiest sex that she's you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:22

I hope so. I'm sure the guy like liked it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:26

I hope she did. I hope she went home and ma'am, and she did not know that.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:30

Here's the other thing. Last thing, sorry, because from Indiana. I'm like, why isn't anybody else telling this bitch to shut up? Like, it has to be me, has to be fucking Karen.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:43

Yeah, the white the white girl from Indiana has to tell the person.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:49

Shut the Tracy Morgan, he's a legend. I think I said that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:55

Well, I I didn't I didn't mention to you, even though I just want to bring it up real quick. So the Indiana Hoosiers won the national championship in football for like the first time, right? Which I'm sure you're everyone in Indiana is very excited about.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:12

Oh my god. Some people like Purdue, but yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:15

Um is the phrase who's your daddy a a thing, or did I make that up?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:28

No, it's a thing. People say that I have a friend from Indiana who's got who's your daddy, who's your daddy, yeah. But do you know where that word comes from?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:37

Who's your tell you who's your uh I do not know?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:42

So apparently it's from like uh Lord Ingalls Wilder days, pioneer days, when people were going across to California, they stopped in this area in Indiana, and the people who had settled here, they the the people would be like, We need you know, food, a bathroom, place to stay, and knock on the door, and then the people would be like, Hoosier, Hoosier, who's here.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:09

I love that.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:10

I swear to god, that's where that's where it comes from. Gene Hackman, Hoosiers, murder, yeah. Wait a minute, Santa Fe, that's Gene Hackman.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:21

The movie Hoosier died in Santa Fe or outside of Santa Fe.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:27

No, he's in Santa, he's in the mountains near 10,000 waves.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:31

Very suspicious death. Star of the movie Hoosiers is Emily connected. We'll talk about it in the future.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:40

But of course, there's always six degrees in Kevin Bacon.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

Um, what was the other thing? I want um uh with the fucking Hoosiers. I forget. I like I really do forget. There's something there was something about Indiana. Indiana's like on the up right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:00

I feel like Indiana's like kind of uh battery, like they're voting like they're very popular.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:04

I feel like Indiana is like a very popular place right now for some reason, maybe because of the Hoosiers. There's some good bands coming out of Indiana.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:15

Bloomington is a cool place, it's close to Chicago, it's close to Cincinnati, right? Um Dayton, don't forget Dayton, Ohio, Salem Mall.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:27

We got some casting chicken. We got some good friends out here from Dayton, and there's a lot of good bands from Dayton, like uh everyone from Dayton rules. You ever seen the uh documentary about the band Brainiac?

SPEAKER_07 1:18:42

Brainiac?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:42

Brainiac from Dayton. I believe they're from Dayton.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:45

They're from Dayton, Ohio. That's another that could be a whole other show.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:50

Well, look at look it up tonight. Look up uh there's a documentary about the band Brainiac that they were really watching Brainiac and it involves a death of the singer and the stuff and the all the the great rock and roll tropes, and um I believe they're a Dayton band. You believe there's what I believe they're a Dayton band. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:15

Well we'll have to we'll have to fact check that. But I will I love watching music documentaries.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:22

Me too. I fell asleep to the ABBA documentary the other night.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:26

Oh, do you want to know some of the yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:28

Of course I do.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:29

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I know we we always have to end, but the the Abba Gold um box set changed my fucking life in high school. My brother gave it to me for Christmas, and me and my friend Dana Bishop Root and our fucking friend Miho. Shout out to Miho! Japan. Where did we get to each other with the name of that? Kyoto. We fucking Miho would hang out with me and Dana, and she didn't speak any English, nothing the whole year, nothing, but she knew ABBA and Gloria Gaynor. They don't have L's in Japan, so they do say Gloria Grayner, and she is a shit, and I actually got to meet up with her in uh 2019 in Kyoto. Isn't that cool?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:24

2019 that's cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:27

Yeah, pre-2020. Anyway, Bill, my son brings to me because it's popular on TikTok or something. Yep, give you the drones, Fernando.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:40

Fernando is Fernando back?

SPEAKER_06 1:20:43

There's a resurgence in the air that night. The star come on, sing with me. Stars were great. Fernando.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:52

Yeah, no, that I I'm watching that documentary. I didn't realize that they became stars from winning that. Um basically the the songwriting, the your Eurovision songwriting competition. Like that's how they became that either. Yeah, they for the song Waterloo.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:12

Waterloo. Waterloo, also my favorite, literally my favorite movie, and I showed it to Bill, Muriel's Wedding.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:20

Never seen it.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:21

It's like you know that stupid fucking movie that uh took all the out of songs, uh Mama Mia.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:28

It's well, they have a they have Mama Mia. Yeah, they have a song called Mama Mia, right? And that's the title of the stupid movie, but it's a musical or whatever that they take. Uh because my son is obsessed. My son's obsessed with a video that is on YouTube that features a song that is to the images of his favorite anime One Piece, and I looked it up and I found the song, and it's a symphonic version of an ABBA song that is really fucking good, but it's like epic, and it's not ABBA, but it's like an interpretation of an ABBA song, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:10

Yeah, so what's the song?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:12

Um it's fuck.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:14

Um you could tell me later.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:17

Yeah, I'd have to, I'd have to look it up, but it's like um, I didn't I was looking for it, and it turns out it's an ABBA song. Oh, um, lay all your love on me.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:30

Lay all your love on me, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:34

Lay all your love on me. It's like a symphonic version of it, and it's so fucking good.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:38

So, anyway, yeah, people just give ABBA a break and watch Muriel's wedding. It's got um in what's her name, the great actress, Julia Roberts.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:51

No, she's Meryl Street, Meryl Streep.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:58

It's going right, it's going right in where it was going right in on your crotch there for a second.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:08

Tony Colette, Tony Colette, Tony Colette, and she's like bigger, and it's in New Zealand, and her dad's basically everyone's like, Muriel, you're a piece of shit. Muriel, you're awful. And then there's meme girls, and they're like, You cannot hang out with us anymore, Muriel. And then Muriel changes her life because she moved, she stole money from her dad and moved to a bigger city, started working in a record store. Her life became like her dream. I've never seen it. I won't spoil the end. Muriel's wedding, please watch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:44

Uh, and isn't Mama Mia a musical? Am I wrong about that?

SPEAKER_07 1:23:48

Isn't that a it is, and it's fucking awful.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:50

I tried to put it on, and it's not all ABBA songs.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:54

It is all ABBA songs.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:56

Okay, I'm confused.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:58

They're like, We're wedding, and these older people are getting married, and then they start saying I hate musicals.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:04

So wait a minute, wait a minute. Is Mamma Mia a musical that ABBA created, or is it a musical created around an ABBA album or something?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:16

Uh ABBA's in the 70s, Mamma Mia's in the early aughts. Okay, so they just and the wedding is in the 90s.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:26

So they took a bunch of ABBA songs and put them in their musical, yeah, and they ruined it.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:31

Okay, also, I got married at IKEA at an ABBA event promoting Mamma Mia, and I married married. That's how me and Scott got legally married. We got married at IKEA and Burbank with like 50 other people, like it was a line of people. It you had to write an essay as to why you love ABBA and why you love IKEA.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:58

So wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:00

Because it's Swedish.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:01

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You had an ABBA or ABBA themed wedding.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:10

Yes, and do you know who hosted was ABA? I never knew this. No one knows it. It's in USA Today.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:17

We were USA Today. I bring up ABBA organically, and it turns out you had an ABBA wedding.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:25

Like Muriel. But you know what? It ended in despair and destruction. Because my mom said it's not Christian. Not Christian to be married at IKEA.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:38

I I beg to differ.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:40

God hates IKEA.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:43

But does she she shops at IKEA? I'm sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:46

No, she's not that cool. She shops at Ashley on furniture. And you know, people shit on IKEA all the time. It taught me how to put shit together. I don't need no man to put together as my I just put together for my work this standing desk that goes up and down. So I had to put every piece together and I had to do the wiring. I had to do everything, and I did it because of IKEA.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:20

Empowering women to build stuff by themselves without a man's help.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:33

Anywho, uh, I'll tell you more about the wedding later, but it yeah, it was like hosted by the original Bachelor and Bachelorette. And I was legally, you know, I have my wedding certificate from California. And then we got like had our real wedding instead of it's like an event.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:50

It was an event.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:51

You got married at like it was a promotional event, a promotional event.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:56

Because IKEA is Swedish and Ava is Swedish.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:59

Very, yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:01

And we went to see the movie at Universal Studios, and I remembered nothing of it. And then when I watched it, I was like, hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:14

Well, you were in your honeymoon.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:16

Anyway, but we were on the front page of I don't know if it's the front page, but we were in uh USA Today, and it said Love and the Time of IKEA, and it was like better, much better than its predecessor.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:31

Love and cholera. You don't want you don't, yeah, Ikea is much better than cholera.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:36

I agree.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:37

Yeah, so you guys were born, are I almost married cholera Harris in the cholera?

SPEAKER_07 1:27:44

But I went green party, bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:47

Oh my god. I don't want to talk about it. That's we don't want to talk about the last election, Emily.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:01

Yeah, it was kind of crazy going to that bomb museum during this time. I let them have it. I said, this is obscene and um eat shit and die. It's what I said on my card. Come card. Eat shit and fucking die.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:19

ESAD. You ever you ever been eating?

SPEAKER_07 1:28:23

ESAB did it.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:24

Yeah, you ever had an ESAD? You know, E D.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:27

Oh, I never knew that that was a thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:30

Eat shit and die.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:31

I was gonna sew it into a beret. Eat shit and die.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:36

Eat shit and die. Yeah. I mean it tough.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:38

It's a tough game.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:39

I mean, that's fucking hello a hilarious thing to say to somebody.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:45

Uh how about you eat shit and die?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:48

What what movie is it where it's um I think it's Feds with Rebecca De Mornay, where they can you love Rebecca De Mornay. I do, I do. Uh there's uh I feel like there's the scene where they go. I'm assuming that they go to a punk show. I want to, I'm not gonna say it's the 9 30 club because it's not, but I feel like there's a punk girl or guy that says uh in response to a simple question, they say suck shit through a tube.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:21

Shit through a tube, get lost.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:24

Yeah, that's better. Eat shit and die and suck shit through a tube.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:29

Gag me with a spoon.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:32

Well, that's something you're asking for. But I you know, to tell someone girl shit, yeah. Uh you know, I'll do it if you want me to, but suck shit through a straw. No one wants to stuff, no one wants to suck shit through a tube.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:48

I'd rather you suck shit through a tube, get tubes put in you. Good get on your deathbed, and I'm gonna pull the plug, and then I'm gonna eat all that shit that came out of you, and then I'm gonna Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:05

Look at the turd cut on that.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:07

How you tell someone to eat shit and die.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:12

I'd rather have someone shit in my mouth than suck shit into it.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:19

About like this guy who had a woman shit in a he laid down. He like this is from Indiana. Okay, someone knew someone who got ordered a sex worker, put a plastic bowl on his face laying down, probably doing things to himself, and the woman shit in that plastic bowl.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:45

That sounds very hoosier-like activity, very hoosier, whoosier one cup reaction videos, those are great.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:55

Gotta watch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:57

No, I have not. Uh, but I should. That's something I should Google on my phone.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:04

There's this old lady who's like, oh my god, oh, and it gets worse and worse and worse. And then she's like, Why'd you show me this?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:13

Anyway, yeah, I mean, I can't stop talking. I don't need to shut up, shut up. I don't need to see it. I don't need to see it anymore. But hey, what would Ryan Adams do?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:25

What would Ryan Adams do? Probably leave the conversation if he were here right now on the Zoom, he'd probably pick up his guitar and play a little melody, and he'd probably okay. Well, I'll just call me later and do a fucking lullaby.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:46

All right, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:47

Here we go.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:49

Oh concert.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:53

Look at how good I am. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:55

Wow, you're like death metal good.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:58

I know it's fucking sick. It's sick. Anyway, Emily, it was lovely to chat with you. Let's do this part two. Man, soon.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:10

You gotta do it while I'm on this roll because you know my energy level will just sink and fall in. Okay. Nothing.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:17

Let's let's go for next next week.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:19

Next week, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:21

Next week, maybe after your vacation. Yeah, next week, maybe.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:28

Part two, this will be the juiciest ones. It's the Ryan Adams fuck-ups, accusations, and more.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:37

And your uh detailed plan on how you can take care of him.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:45

It's easy. Uh just be his live. Here's what I'm gonna do. Just I'll be his live-in caregiver. I'll make his bed every morning. I'll make sure that he has a calm, expansive morning. Like, do your thing, have your coffee, whatever it is that you fucking do. Take two or three hours to do that. I will answer all your stressful emails, all the texts, everything. I'll take care of that. You won't even have to hear about it. And then your miniere's disease, whatever it is, will be calm, it will not be activated. Then you go play music. I will hire someone to like um cook and clean and all that, and I'll sit out on the patio and I don't smoke cigarettes. Um, might probably just read a book in the sun with some dogs, and then nighttime comes, and he wants to pull me close, pull me close, hold me in bed, say thank you for taking care of me. And tomorrow we're gonna go to a red carpet, and uh, I'm gonna bring my cane, and you just stand back there and you just watch. That's the current if that happens every day. Sorry, asking too much, it's realistic.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:13

If that happens literally every day for the rest of your life, I'm so happy for you. That'd be great.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:18

I'm excited.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:20

It would be great.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:21

I'd be hell's gels.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:24

So we spellcast. This is our spell casting, and we are here to we don't need to redeem Ryan Adams, we just need to make a case for like why he should be redeemed, and he's already redeemed in Europe, and um just change his his public persona, he's not a fucking pop country star, he's a he's a mad genius.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:52

All right, well, if he's worthy, if he's worthy, we'll uh we'll get him there, I guess. I don't know. I don't know the guy. What if we don't get along, Emily? What if I meet this guy and he's a total asshole? You know, that's fine. You just and and what if he hits on me?

SPEAKER_07 1:35:11

That's his stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:12

What am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_07 1:35:14

You're gonna show up in your life, and you're gonna say, you know what? His monkeys, his circus. Okay, we have a we have a podcast, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:26

Okay, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I'll take a step back and I'll I want to see where this goes.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:34

Read some coda anonymous.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:38

Maybe I'll learn some more of his songs.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:40

Please do please watch that Henry Rollins live show for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:45

Okay, good call.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:48

Uh it's a real banger. All right, I'm I'm shutting down, signing off. Thank you, people, for like what it humoring me.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:02

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SPEAKER_07 1:36:09

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SPEAKER_02 1:36:19

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SPEAKER_07 1:36:30

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SPEAKER_02 1:36:32

Stuff like that. We're gonna be we are in okay. Send uh list, send us uh tasty nudes, no nudes, body conscious, I think tasty nudes.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:45

I don't need to see a man's penis. Hey let people, no one needs a dick pic unless they specifically ask for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:55

I I don't even want to see a picture of my own dick, even if it's like a picture of an abnormality I would have to send to my doctor to diagnose something. I still wouldn't want to see that.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:12

Like, why no one wants to see my apron belly? Ape apron, yes, it's uh it's an affliction for us perimenopausal women, especially who've had children. I've had two by emergency C-section. I'm all fucked up over there. It's just it's just see this the apron.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:36

That's the apron. Oh, the camera's following you, and there's so cool. The zoom thing is like very cool. Don't even I love your apron.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:47

You love what?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:48

I love your apron. My what apron.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:52

Oh, thank you. Yeah, and then and I've got grand grandma arms starting.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:57

There you go. There it is.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:00

Huggable, lovable, wise.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:03

Amazing, yeah. You know, I've gained like 20 pounds in the last couple months.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:10

The last couple months.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:11

Oh, yeah, because I've been on workers' comp. I've been sitting at home.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:15

It's been like have you been on the pain pills?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:18

Uh not no, let's be honest. A little bit of muscle relaxers, but no, they nothing, nothing really. Just you don't really prescribe those anymore. Nothing, uh, I just haven't been able to be very active. Yeah, and I've been that's how I got fat.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:34

I mean, you know, I'm not fat, I just that's how I gained literally 40 pounds.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:38

You're not fat, and you know, I'm getting back into it. I'm getting back into it here. But you look great. I think I look great. I think Ryan Adams. What if he watched this show? He's gonna have a hard time deciding who's the most beautiful, me or you. I know, to be honest, and who's smarter because that's probably gonna be the first thing that pops into his mind because he's a me too guy. He's gonna immediately be like he's gonna immediately jump right into our looks and try to hit on one of us. It's gonna be either me or you, and I know his songs.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:19

I'm ready for this competition. I'm gonna do like a fucking WWF. I I think you got a slight edge.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:27

I think you got a slight edge, you know, being a woman.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:33

But I think he's a he's a he's a very romantic man. I think that he would take I love caress, a soft caress. I love, I can give he would love to take you to the um I'll shave the hair off the outside. I'll shave the hair off the outside of my hands, and I'll just he has these beautiful hairy hands and arms and fat sausage fingers. Just kidding. Hey, sorry, just kidding.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:01

All right, Ryan Adams, reach out. I will give you Emily's phone number.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:06

505-91377. Don't tell else.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:15

Did you say 777?

SPEAKER_07 1:40:20

That's the number. Give it a call.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:23

I love it. I'm gonna give it a call right now.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:26

Call it.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:27

Holy shit. How the fuck is that? That you really did give out your real phone number.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:33

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:34

That is crazy. It really is.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:36

It's not my real phone number.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:38

It really is close. It's so it's so close. All right, y'all. Emily, I'll see you soon.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:50

Hang loose. Hang loose.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:52

I always do. I have to pee so bad, it hurts.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:57

It's a good time to end.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:00

All right, do that.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:01

Get that relief. Go.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:03

All right.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:03

I'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:04

See ya. Bye bye. Love you too.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:07

Bye. Bye. Leave.